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Post by Lolly Wed 27 May 2020, 7:05 pm

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Post by Maureen Wed 27 May 2020, 8:57 pm

Been told so many times that his Uncle lived at the top of my Street Great George St Wallgate,and his yellow Rolls was often seen parked outside their door...I have a Uke but they're no way can I play the thing,George was brilliant at playing it..I don't think he will be bettered ever.
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Post by Admin Thu 28 May 2020, 9:20 pm

My dad, born 1902, took my little brother and I along Wathie house lane...Walthew House lane near the present Heinz factory, on the weekends and we would call in at Georges House on the red brick road to Martland Mill. The people now/then resident in the house sold chocolates and sweets. I always remember my father telling us that George Formby used to live in this house. Didn't mean a thing to us little kids, but it is so important to know, now, that I was in George Formby's house.
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Post by Weatherwax Thu 28 May 2020, 11:55 pm

I have been having a snoop at the history of George Formby (George Hoy Booth) to see if I could answer Maureen's Question. I havent answered that yet, but I saw the 1911 Census.... George is there with his widowed grandmother, Louisa Hoy, one of his many Sisters and Visitors. Missing are his Father George Formby sr (James Lawler Booth) and his Mother Eliza Ann Hoy. The address on the Census is.. Walthew House Farm, Pemberton. and although the Head of the household is Louisa Hoy, The cover of the Census gives the Address and the name James Booth. Presumably He owned the property.

Another interesting titbit is that Louisa's Husband, Georges Grandfather was George Hoy, A Groom from Newmarket, Norfolk. Young George started his working life, not as a Comedian but as a Trainee Jockey.
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Post by jo anne Sat 30 May 2020, 8:34 am

Maureen wrote:Been told that his Uncle lived at the top of my street Great George St Wallgate

Sorry to go off topic, but do you know what this tower was originally, Maureen?

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Tower Enterprise Park, Great George St
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Post by Maureen Sat 30 May 2020, 9:22 am

jo anne..I have no idea where that can be,Great George Street was a very long Street,I wonder if it's at the bottom end..Ill keep my eyes open next time we go down there.

Weatherwax..if it's any help,a Mr Priestly was supposed to be Georges Uncle,they lived at the very top of the Street,in fact right facing my Grandparents..we lived just a bit further down.
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Post by Lolly Sat 30 May 2020, 10:01 am

James Booth was  George Formby senior

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Formby_Sr

Comments by Mike Topping, 31st December 2011  
Walthew House and Whalley House were two separate farms. Whalley House farm was occupied in 1871 by the Dickinson family with the Ormeshers as live in workers. By 1881 Edward Ormesher and his wife Ellen had taken over the farm. They were still there in 1911 but by then James Topping born 1869 who was my great grand uncle had married Mary, the boss's daughter. They had 3 children, James, Ann and Maria (who later died). Marion (who also died) was born in 1912. Edward, or Ned as I remember him, was born on Christmas Day 1913.
Walthew House Farm was occupied by the Dawson family in 1881. In 1891 and 1901 The King family, headed by Ann, were in occupation.
By 1911 it was owned by James Booth, better known as George Formby senior.

http://www.wiganworld.co.uk/album/photo.php?opt=3&id=8320&gallery=H.+J.+Heinz%2C+Kitt+Green&offset=0
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Post by -OY- Sat 30 May 2020, 12:04 pm

jo anne wrote:
Maureen wrote:Been told that his Uncle lived at the top of my street Great George St Wallgate

Sorry to go off topic, but do you know what this tower was originally, Maureen?

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Railway signal box I think.
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Post by Maureen Sat 30 May 2020, 12:37 pm

Oy,the signal box was nearly at the backs of our houses and was shaped like a car..if you go on ww and type Jean Middleton in the search box,there's the box on one of the photos.
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Post by jo anne Sat 30 May 2020, 12:54 pm

Thanks, Oy and Maureen Smile

The tower is behind the units and close by, but in front of, the railway line.

The photo of the signal box in WW Album:
http://www.wiganworld.co.uk/album/photo.php?opt=1&id=20934&gallery=St+Thomas%27s+Walking+Day&offset=0

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Post by Maureen Sat 30 May 2020, 2:41 pm

Thank you jo anne
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Post by Weatherwax Mon 01 Jun 2020, 7:13 pm

Well! I think I have found the answer for Maureen.  Any Uncle must be either a Brother or Brother in Law to Georges Mother or Father.  His Father had only Half siblings, none of whom came to or lived in Lancashire, so that discounts the fathers side. His Mother had a few siblings, Georgina, John William, and Matilda. Her Sister, Georgina married in Wigan to James Alfred PRIESTLEY. He would have been Georges Uncle by Marriage. He was a Groom and Coachman for Middleton and Woods, but He died in 1908 and always seems to have lived in Marsh Lane, not George Street.  He did have at least Two Sons who would have carried the name Priestley, But they would have been Georges Cousins. It is possible that it was one of these that lived in George Street.
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Post by Maureen Mon 01 Jun 2020, 7:50 pm

Hello Weatherwax..you have been busy haven't you..for the life of me I can't remember Mr Priestlys Christian name..he lived as I say directly facing my Grandparents..his wife used to be a wet nurse ..and his Sons were Jacky and Albert..when they demolished our Street Mr Priestly finished up in Norley Hall..I met him once in his later years,and I remember him asking me if I'd cut his hair for him..so I think a bit of dementia had set in...anyway thank you for your hard work.x
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Post by Weatherwax Tue 02 Jun 2020, 5:37 pm

Glad you found it interesting.  Very Happy  I love problems and questions like that, as long as I have the basic clues to work with (I am not a magician Laughing  ) And you gave me the breakthrough when you mentioned the name Priestley. I knew it wasn't on his fathers side, and his mothers side was Hoy, So it had to be one of her sisters with a change to a married name.
Talking about names, The other Sister married a Eugene Louis Fawcett (A Butcher) Laughing Laughing
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Post by Naughty Mitten Tue 02 Jun 2020, 5:44 pm

I bet you put washing out every day to spread the gossip Very Happy
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Post by Weatherwax Tue 02 Jun 2020, 5:53 pm

Cant put washing out, or go out.  So I gossip about the dead not the living.  George Formby Animated-ghost-image-0006
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Post by Maureen Tue 02 Jun 2020, 6:35 pm

Just remembered the Dads name WW..it was Harry.
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Post by Weatherwax Wed 03 Jun 2020, 7:24 pm

Thanks Maureen. It is just as I thought, The Two sons (Georges Cousins) were Walter and Harry, It was Harry who lived and Died in Wigan.  Thumbs Up
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