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Re: Bonfires
No the lot at the top end .........they were horrors , at least Dick Turpin wore a mask .
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Re: Bonfires
In 1605, thirteen young men planned to blow up
the Houses of Parliament. Among them was
Guy Fawkes, Britain's most notorious traitor.
After Queen Elizabeth I died in 1603, English Catholics who had been persecuted under her rule had hoped that her successor, James I, would be more tolerant of their religion. James I had, after all, had a Catholic mother. Unfortunately, James did not turn out to be more tolerant than Elizabeth and a number of young men, 13 to be exact, decided that violent action was the answer.
A small group took shape, under the leadership of Robert Catesby. Catesby felt that violent action was warranted. Indeed, the thing to do was to blow up the Houses of Parliament. In doing so, they would kill the King, maybe even the Prince of Wales, and the Members of Parliament who were making life difficult for the Catholics. Today these conspirators would be known as extremists, or terrorists.
To carry out their plan, the conspirators got hold of 36 barrels of gunpowder - and stored them in a cellar, just under the House of Lords.
But as the group worked on the plot, it became clear that innocent people would be hurt or killed in the attack, including some people who even fought for more rights for Catholics. Some of the plotters started having second thoughts. One of the group members even sent an anonymous letter warning his friend, Lord Monteagle, to stay away from the Parliament on November 5th. Was the letter real?
The warning letter reached the King, and the King's forces made plans to stop the conspirators.
Guy Fawkes, who was in the cellar of the parliament with the 36 barrels of gunpowder when the authorities stormed it in the early hours of November 5th, was caught, tortured and executed.
It's unclear if the conspirators would ever have been able to pull off their plan to blow up the Parliament even if they had not been betrayed. Some have suggested that the gunpowder itself was so old as to be useless. Since Guy Fawkes and the other conspirators got caught before trying to ignite the powder, we'll never know for certain.
Even for the period which was notoriously unstable, the Gunpowder Plot struck a very profound chord for the people of England. In fact, even today, the reigning monarch only enters the Parliament once a year, on what is called "the State Opening of Parliament". Prior to the Opening, and according to custom, the Yeomen of the Guard search the cellars of the Palace of Westminster. Nowadays, the Queen and Parliament still observe this tradition.
On the very night that the Gunpowder Plot was foiled, on November 5th, 1605, bonfires were set alight to celebrate the safety of the King. Since then, November 5th has become known as Bonfire Night. The event is commemorated every year with fireworks and burning effigies of Guy Fawkes on a bonfire.
Some of the English have been known to wonder, in a tongue in cheek kind of way, whether they are celebrating Fawkes' execution or honoring his attempt to do away with the government
the Houses of Parliament. Among them was
Guy Fawkes, Britain's most notorious traitor.
After Queen Elizabeth I died in 1603, English Catholics who had been persecuted under her rule had hoped that her successor, James I, would be more tolerant of their religion. James I had, after all, had a Catholic mother. Unfortunately, James did not turn out to be more tolerant than Elizabeth and a number of young men, 13 to be exact, decided that violent action was the answer.
A small group took shape, under the leadership of Robert Catesby. Catesby felt that violent action was warranted. Indeed, the thing to do was to blow up the Houses of Parliament. In doing so, they would kill the King, maybe even the Prince of Wales, and the Members of Parliament who were making life difficult for the Catholics. Today these conspirators would be known as extremists, or terrorists.
To carry out their plan, the conspirators got hold of 36 barrels of gunpowder - and stored them in a cellar, just under the House of Lords.
But as the group worked on the plot, it became clear that innocent people would be hurt or killed in the attack, including some people who even fought for more rights for Catholics. Some of the plotters started having second thoughts. One of the group members even sent an anonymous letter warning his friend, Lord Monteagle, to stay away from the Parliament on November 5th. Was the letter real?
The warning letter reached the King, and the King's forces made plans to stop the conspirators.
Guy Fawkes, who was in the cellar of the parliament with the 36 barrels of gunpowder when the authorities stormed it in the early hours of November 5th, was caught, tortured and executed.
It's unclear if the conspirators would ever have been able to pull off their plan to blow up the Parliament even if they had not been betrayed. Some have suggested that the gunpowder itself was so old as to be useless. Since Guy Fawkes and the other conspirators got caught before trying to ignite the powder, we'll never know for certain.
Even for the period which was notoriously unstable, the Gunpowder Plot struck a very profound chord for the people of England. In fact, even today, the reigning monarch only enters the Parliament once a year, on what is called "the State Opening of Parliament". Prior to the Opening, and according to custom, the Yeomen of the Guard search the cellars of the Palace of Westminster. Nowadays, the Queen and Parliament still observe this tradition.
On the very night that the Gunpowder Plot was foiled, on November 5th, 1605, bonfires were set alight to celebrate the safety of the King. Since then, November 5th has become known as Bonfire Night. The event is commemorated every year with fireworks and burning effigies of Guy Fawkes on a bonfire.
Some of the English have been known to wonder, in a tongue in cheek kind of way, whether they are celebrating Fawkes' execution or honoring his attempt to do away with the government
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I suggest that we have a contender for Britain's most notorious traitor,
but this time , without gunpowder .
But ' penny for the Corb' doesn't have the same ...ring...
but this time , without gunpowder .
But ' penny for the Corb' doesn't have the same ...ring...
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Guy Fawkes’ former school, St.Peter’s in York, does not celebrate the night as they refuse to burn one of their own
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"But ' penny for the Corb' doesn't have the same ...ring..."
I would give at least tuppence...
I would give at least tuppence...
Re: Bonfires
Police forced to retreat after being ambushed by gang-of-20 in Bonfire Night chaos
Police were called to assist firefighters on Barrack Street ParK, Hulme, when they were suddenly attacked by yobs at around 7pm.
When teens started launching fireworks, officers were forced to go back to their police cars for safety.
GMP said their officers only narrowly avoided injuries thanks to their protective clothing.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/police-retreat-ambushed-bonfire-night-17208864?fbclid=IwAR0_6jjIS8QtZSo6vfMQaoaCL8_hsSRRxepdWTI8xGMnBYBpU1469fRZXLw
In my opinion this should mean an outright ban on fireworks sold to the general public.
Police were called to assist firefighters on Barrack Street ParK, Hulme, when they were suddenly attacked by yobs at around 7pm.
When teens started launching fireworks, officers were forced to go back to their police cars for safety.
GMP said their officers only narrowly avoided injuries thanks to their protective clothing.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/police-retreat-ambushed-bonfire-night-17208864?fbclid=IwAR0_6jjIS8QtZSo6vfMQaoaCL8_hsSRRxepdWTI8xGMnBYBpU1469fRZXLw
In my opinion this should mean an outright ban on fireworks sold to the general public.
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It also means that policing has to get tougher. I know it sounds corny, but this would never have happened in my day.
Re: Bonfires
because you knew your locals , and they knew if they played up , you would wait for them , and they would get a slapping , and EVERYBODY would know . Wrong or right , you were a lot safer then .
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Re: Bonfires
I think it will be a wash out this year. I may not need to retire to under the stairs
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I hope it will be a washout, fed up with all the loud bangs already, loved fireworks when I was younger but now I'm just a grumpy owd bugger.
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going from house to house begging is not happening this year
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Tommytee wrote:going from house to house begging is not happening this year
Why, have you won on the lottery?
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i ment I could settle down to my ale without being interupted
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An idea for kids freeze some juice in a plastic glove. Spooky punch.Make sure all the fingers are frozen. You dont want them dropping off
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My mate, Peter (Pey) Ashurst lived on the Green.
I wonder what happened to him and all my old mates from Norley?
I wonder what happened to him and all my old mates from Norley?
Re: Bonfires
I hope those having bonfires in their gardens have insurance.
Insurers aviva said fire claims rose by 2 thirds between 5th and 7th Nov last year and by 150% on bonfire night 2018 with damage to fences sheds garages and homes.
This fire started in someone's garden
https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/residents-evacuated-huge-fire-spreads-18187885
Insurers aviva said fire claims rose by 2 thirds between 5th and 7th Nov last year and by 150% on bonfire night 2018 with damage to fences sheds garages and homes.
This fire started in someone's garden
https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/residents-evacuated-huge-fire-spreads-18187885
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You'd have thought it was bommy night here last night. Mental, it was raining as well, so how they managed to light the fireworks, and set them
off is anyone's guess
off is anyone's guess
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