The Rwanda plan

Home Secretary Suella Braverman tours potential migrant housing in Rwanda as asylum deal remains mired in legal challenges

https://news.sky.com/story/home-secretary-suella-braverman-to-visit-rwanda-as-asylum-deal-remains-mired-in-legal-challenges-12836448

Surely they must have checked into the legality of this plan before announcing it? Besides why send them to Rwanda...just ship them back across the channel...!!!

What am I missing?

Lisa sorts it

https://order-order.com/2023/03/19/lisa-nandy-claims-rwanda-policy-is-unethical-and-unworkable/

Go Lisa!

The problem with illegal immigrants crossing the channel is an on going problem. There
has been out cry about using hotels to accommodate these people. There has been a suggestion about using defunct RAF bases[RAF Scamton home to the famous Dambusters} to house them but that has been objected to. Someone suggested that they be housed on islands around our coast, can anyone suggest how this might work?

Is the government right to suggest that illegal immigrants will be sent to Rwanda. Is the money being spent to achieve this justified?

What about putting them in jails? Why 4 star hotels? We don't put our homeless in them...!!! We don't put prisoners in them..!!!

What IS this government thinking of.? Why are we paying the French millions of pounds to stop them coming across? It's not working.

I believe the French are taking the p-ss out of us. I am angry...Grrrrrrrrrrrrr..........

" What IS this government thinking of?. "I'ts not working" That's probably why the Rwanda

plan was brought in. What's your take on that Fred.  Should they be sent there or not?

Anne Widdecome

https://twitter.com/i/status/1637575776101883906

It seems that it will be a deterrant, but I still wonder why they are not sent back to France.

What do you think? and what do our members think?

Apparently it isn't illegal to pass through safe countries to get here to claim asylum.They must think it's worth putting their lives at risk, and their childrens lives, to cross the channel. I have no idea whether the new policy will, firstly get off the ground, and if it does
will it deter people from making that dangerous crossing.

Just been reading this, It seems my friend is caught up in the Malawi cyclone freddie

Mzuzu Chief Resident Magistrate Court has sentenced 23 Ethiopians and a Burundian National to two months’ imprisonment for entering the country illegally.

State Prosecutor Sub Inspector Fancy Sichali pleaded with the court to hand the convicts a stiffer punishment saying the malpractice is rampant and that when deported the culprits return to Malawi.

In mitigation, the illegal immigrants through an interpreter asked the court not to deport them saying conditions in their home countries are bad hence their migration for other countries.

However, Chief Resident Magistrate Paul Chiotcha sentenced the 24 to two months’ imprisonment after which they should be deported to their countries.

https://malawi24.com/2023/03/21/twenty-four-migrants-sentenced-to-two-months-imprisonment/

Wow, there is common sense...somewhere............

Ministers have signalled they want to end the use of hotels as asylum seeker accommodation and instead use military bases or disused ferries.

https://news.sky.com/story/plans-to-house-migrants-on-military-bases-and-disused-ferries-to-be-announced-within-weeks-12842083

Well, about time....

"have signalled they want" - that's a long way off then! And probably as realistic as a Tory Manifesto promise.

What did the Court of Appeal ruling say?
Campaigners and asylum seekers have won a Court of Appeal challenge against the UK government's planned Rwanda deportation scheme
The Court of Appeal overturns a High Court ruling that said in December the east African nation could be considered a "safe third country"
The decision was announced by the Lord Chief Justice Lord Burnett during a short hearing in London
The decision of the majority of judges was that, due to "deficiencies" in the Rwandan asylum system there are substantial grounds for believing that there is a real risk that persons sent to Rwanda will be returned to their home countries, where they were fleeing from
Until those deficiencies are corrected, removal of asylum seekers will be unlawful, the court ruled
The appellants, charity Asylum Aid and ten asylum seekers, argued there were substantial grounds for believing there is a real risk that any persons sent to Rwanda will be removed to their home country

BBC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66051292

It's a complete mess from where I am sitting....

All that money spent/wasted when our pensioners are struggling to get by...and we paid in all that money....Bah..!!

Rishi Sunak
@RishiSunak
It is this country – and your government – who should decide who comes here, not criminal gangs.

My statement on today’s ruling

I did wonder who is running our country..but I was considering the law courts, not criminal gangs.

Breaking
At least six people dead and dozens rescued as migrant boat crossing Channel capsizes
A vast rescue operation was launched at around 4am UK time as dozens of boats tried to make the crossing at the same time, local officials say. A total of seven ships and a helicopter are involved in ongoing search and rescue efforts.

Saturday 12 August 2023 15:05, UK

https://news.sky.com/story/at-least-one-person-dead-and-dozens-rescued-as-migrant-boat-crossing-channel-capsizes-12938447

Rwanda bill passes third reading in the Commons
The prime minister has fought off Conservative rebels as enough MPs backed his government's key Safety of Rwanda Bill at the third reading.

Those in favour: 320
Those against: 276

Source BBC

It has now got to be passed through the Lords and then through the Courts, so it's by no means a done deal.
I don't want to knock it, because any measure the Government take to try and stop the boats is worth trying, but they have paid Rwanda £240 million up to now and not one single person has been sent there, so how will that be a deterrent. these immigrants will know that fact and take their chances knowing that being sent there is unlikely.

Labour has said the UK should quickly take up Rwanda’s president on his offer to return money spent on deportation scheme.

I can't understand these figures.

Those in favour: 320
Those against: 276

It's almost like half the party disagrees with the other half and at election time the country itself is split almost down the middle as well..

Still, I suppose that's democracy for you.

I also don't understand why send them to Rwanda..why not send right back to France. Other parties are talking about doing this.

Oooooooops. me soapbox just collapsed....bah.......

'It's time to start the flights!' Sunak issues warning to unelected Lords not to meddle in his plan

https://www.gbnews.com/

Rishi Sunak suffers first defeat on Rwanda plan by House of Lords

https://www.gbnews.com/politics/rishi-sunak-rwanda-treaty-houseof-lords-defeat